I was reading Ivan's blog this morning and clicked on the link he posted on Taiwan....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQqkKzxuQG8
I was never really a patriotic kid as Ivan, perhaps because I left TW way too early....but tears dropped down when I was looking at it. I guess I just can't help disliking China's oppression toward TW cuz I grew up in TW thinking it IS an independent country. People do have a choice to choose where they live and invest money.....(if you want you can move your whole family to China and nobody is gonna say a word about it)...but people certainly don't have a right to look over at something good that OTHER people developed and grab it to put in their own pockets. (Why the heck does China think they have the right to say Taiwan belongs to China? Why don't they just take Singapore or Indonesia? where majority of people are Chinese anyway?)
man....I guess I do have a Taiwanese root no matter what....China oriented thinking does tick me off big time no matter how I hide it....
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I really think that video is meant to inspire people of Taiwan... to help people feel more united instead of continue to bicker amongst themselves... or feeling more pissed off!!! If you are feeling more hatred toward the Chinese, please let it go NOW!!! I command you as your husband... and I command you in the name of our Lord Jesus!!! ;)
Also, please do not confuse Communist China as the only Chinese. Being Chinese doesn't mean you have to communist.
I was born in Taiwan. I am Taiwanese. I'm also Chinese. I'm also American. To say that I'm not Taiwanese or not Chinese or not American, I'm only telling a lie. Taiwan does have a lot to be proud of. Just as Californian can be proud of themselves as part of United States.
I really don't care either way whether if Taiwan is part of China or a totally independent state in the future. Taiwan should just do whatever's best for the people of Taiwan.
If State of California wants to become independent, surely there'll be some kind of struggle against the Federal government. Are we willing to fight the Federal government for our independence? Are the Taiwanese people willing to fight?
Anyway, as for the Olympics, I think Taiwan athletes should just wear their uniforms with flags printed on them. This way, maybe the Chinese organizer can strip our athletes naked if they want. ;)
Taiwan is internationally known already. Taiwan's biggest enemy isn't really China, but the lousy politicians in Taiwan. USA has lousy politicians too of course... so in such adverse conditions, we ought to just continue to do what's right like Joseph! Also, instead of spend time getting mad at China, it's probably better to spend the time to pray for China and Taiwan!
Peace! :)
See this is how we are diff. I do not deny the fact that I am Chinese... but I was raised up in TW and will not consider myself from China. Even if someday I get an American passport I will not consider myself white. I don't have to hate people when they don't bother me. So if China is fine letting TW be it is right now I don't feel anything toward them. You cannot force an independent country to go back to the origin unless they want to. It's just like when a kid is independent, there is no point forcing him/her to stay attached unless he/she wants to. Politicians in TW now may be messed up, but the previous in control was more messed up by giving people false hope of getting mainland China back while it was impossible. There are not much we can do about it...but do you really think anyone wants to "unit" back to China other than the people who came directly from China and are probably gonna die within the next 20 years? I really don't believe in unity working all the time when the choice may be wrong....like I don't believe in making a bad choice and marrying someone you should not, and then at the end wish for everything to work out based on a bad choice. If China is already insulting everything we have in TW, then do you think they will try to treat us well once we are "united"? What kinda respect is that really?
Hello dear sister and Billy I'm Ivan
Long time no see ya,How are you ?
just expresses my opinion
Billy,I can understand that you don't care whether Taiwan is a part of China or a independent country.
but I care ,and almost Taiwanese care that.
You are not grew up in Taiwan , that's why you don't care
Like the American's country is USA not England but you can say that both American and British belong to the same race,speak the same language
even have the same culture.
Like you can say you are "worldian" becaus you born in the world but "world" isn't your country
No metter where we are
We are all Han(means Chinese)
That's why Taiwan can use "Chinese Taipei" as our baseball team name to join the Olympic
But we can't use "Taiwan,China" as the team name.
Because in practice we are the same race but different country
The same reason,it's impossible that USA rise the British flag on the top of White Hourse
The South America have 26 countries and only Brasil speaks portugues.
but the rest of them are different country each other.
um , just pray!
That's a true way to keep peace.
When jesus christ comes, All will be unimportant at all.
God bless you , hope you happy and healthy everyday:) Ivan
Ivan, I do care about Taiwan..., however, it's up to the people who live there to make the decision about Taiwan's future. Not me.
I disagree with people living outside of Taiwan to return 'home' to vote for president of whatever. If you are living outside of Taiwan, I think they should be excluded from voting! People should vote wherever they live!!!
So I hope you understand that I do care. However, I don't care which party is in control and I don't care if Taiwan later on becomes part of China or as an independent nation. I will love Taiwan just the same as before. I'd continue to love Taiwan whether if it's blue or green or purple or whatever! ;) Why? Because I was born and raised there. I lived there first 12 years of my life.
Taiwan is a name that cannot be erased by the Chinese. Even if 'reunited', it'd still be the province of Taiwan. And if it's indepences that Taiwan wants, first, I think it needs to develope it's military. Instead of throwing money at 3rd world nations, Taiwan need to develope weapons of their own... instead of buying 'junk' weapons from the US. Ideally, Taiwan should have a nuclear bomb. This is a sure ticket for international respect. Saddam Hussein didn't have it, that's why it got invaded. North Korea does have it, that's why US wouldn't mess with them.
Anyway, US fought against England to break free from their motherland. Taiwan may have to do the same.
If not by weapons, Taiwan needs to win the war against China economically. This day and age, money talks... when we are tied together financially, there'll be less incentive to wage wars against each other...
Anyway, this is a very complicated issue. Point is that I think the video your sister linked wants people of Taiwan to unite together. If people of Taiwan do NOT unite together as one, it'll surely fall later on. Problems on the inside need to be solved first..., then Taiwan can worry about problems from the outside(namely China).
Two Chinas' not going to go on forever. Personally, I think in another 100 years, people will be able to see more clearly about what to do. When the older generations pass away, there'll be a lot less hard feelings and people will be able to see more clearly what's the right thing to do.
Hi Billy,
哈，打英文會花掉我太多時間
因為我每打完一句都會一直念
怕哪裡怪怪的，雖然還是怪怪的
但是我試著打，讓我的英文能進步
我想的是，台灣沒有辦法發展太多的軍火
因為立法院是掌控一切國家預算的機構
而台灣的執政黨，卻不是國會最大黨
這是很矛盾的，所以往往窒礙難行
且某國會第一大政黨黨綱的目標是終極統一
在媒體發達的世代，現狀的台灣發展防衛性武器或者一切性質的武器
將會被曲解為不顧民生經濟，而走向獨裁，但實質不然，普通百姓卻只看表面
而台灣的媒體是舉世的糟糕，這也是無可奈何的
且發展武器會被美國視為"挑釁"或者試圖改變現狀的
動作，而遭到國際輿論，這是台灣沒辦法做的
台灣也不想當凱子跟美國買"junk weapons"
更不用說核子武器了，在現階段是天方夜譚
台灣無能力100%自行研發核子武器，需要向各國購買相關原料，這是我上周在一個專題節目所得知的
該節目提到有國際組織評選台灣為"有能力十年內發展製造核子武器"的國家
但是世界不會有任何一個強權支持台灣研發破壞攻擊性的武器
我覺得台灣不用去做任何事情像美國抵抗英國這般，
因為台灣不需要徵求獨立，事實上，台灣與中國早已互不隸屬，互不相關，因為中華人民共和國沒有辦法
有效的管轄台灣境內的任何一寸土地，所以情況實質上跟英美的關係不大一樣，
That is to say 台灣的現狀是 「實質獨立（de facto independence）」，即互不隸屬，且英美日等國在口頭上
接承認台灣中國互不隸屬，但是台灣欠缺的是「法理獨立（de jure independence）」。
意即加入重要組織如UN.WHO...等，兩者是有差距的，而台灣現在辦的是法理台獨的公投，爭取普世的承認
台灣胸要的是一個國號的變更以與中國區分，而不是國號的混淆ROC與PRC中的CHINA易造成混淆
國號問題以及法理台獨與否是中國對外聲稱其為自己一部份的原因
Anyway...
這的確是個很有趣的問題，跟家人對於這種東西有不同的意見，可以一起討論，我覺得很好
也很高興，關於你的倒數第二段的論點，我完全的贊同，完全的了解，且完全的支持
台灣內部的團結一致的確很難做到，因為有兩種聲音，各自佔了幾乎一半，所以現在大家需要一起努力，兩黨兩派吵得越兇
受傷最多的其實就是台灣人民
其實，就算變成一個中國，對我們來說，影響不大，因為我們在乎的不是在世上的任何東西，這都必歸於塵土
呵呵，願神的國早日降臨
IVAN
Ivan, I think the main problem with Taiwan is that we're just not "strong" enough yet. Not only is China pressuring us, even USA can also screw with us too!
I really think it was the Americans who wanted China to split in two. Just as Korea was split in two. Vietnam was split in two. Anyway, I believe this is simply their tactic to divide and conquer foreign nations so that the foreigners are not only less of a threat to them, but they can also make a profit by selling them weapons!!! It's a win/win situation for them.
Unity is usually a good idea. This is why even the European nations are trying to unite together with the new "Euro" currency system. Europeans also collaborated together to form Airbus in order to compete with Boeing. Unity can bring strength, that's for sure.
However, I do understand we shouldn't have unity at all cost. Unity is NOT always good. Sometimes it is bad to unite together if it's for the wrong cause. Biblically, supposedly the AntiChrist will be uniting the whole world! In the past, people also united together to build the tower of Babel, but God divided them up to humble them.
So there are times to unite... and there are also times we need to be split up for our own good.
Anyway, you are right, Taiwan is already an independent nation. The only problem is that we have 'China' as part of our national name. This is why it's a problem for UN to accept 2 Chinas I suppose. Continuing on as is right now is only a temporary solution. Sooner or later, Taiwan will drop 'China' in its name... or it'll later on officially become part of China. What'll happen to Taiwan in the future? I don't know.
In the past, China has even split into 3 kingdoms, right? Which of the 3 kingdoms were the real China? Or did China momentarily cease to exist when it was split into three?
Anyway, whatever..., I don't have all the answers and I don't have the solutions, but we can trust in God that He'll make all things work together for the benefit of those who love Him. If it'll benefit us to have an independent Taiwan, surely that's what'll happen. If it'll benefit us to have Taiwan be part of China, then surely that's what'll happen. Whatever happens, I'm still Taiwanese. I was born in Taiwan. I'm also Chinese. I cannot deny my roots. I'm also an American. I'm a naturalized American citizen.
May God bless Taiwan... and may God bless China and America too! :)
I think your viewpoint can be all Christian contain me accepted.
So what is the most vital thing we have to do ?
"Preaching the world of God"
We should do our best on that.
Amen to that bro!!! :)
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